The three states – Emotional, Logical and Equi-State

There has been some talk of states in the forum. I’ve got a few insights on it lately, and I’d like to share them with you. Relevance to pick up:

- You have to evoke emotional state in a girl in order to be able to seduce
- You need to be “in state” when you’re in the field. Do you know what that state is?

Let’s start.

Basically, people live most of their lives in between two states:

- Logical state
- Emotional state

Every one of us in the human race spends part of their time in both states, interchangeably.

STATES AND GENDERS
In my opinion, the cause for most misunderstandings between females and males stems from a very simple difference.
Girls (as a general, statistic rule) spend a lot more of their time in emotional state. Hence, they are referred to as “emotional creatures” a lot of the time, they are considered to have higher tendencies to panic etc.
Guys (same generalization) spend a lot more of their time in logical state. A lot of guys have ZERO emotional intelligence. They do not understand their emotions, they would never even admit to having been emotional. Their tendency to backwards rationalize is huge, and they don’t accept (unlike girls) that sometimes they are not LOGICALLY in control of themselves.

STATES EXPLAINED

LOGICAL STATE (LS)
This state involves everything that is governed by rules and requires structured thinking. For example – if I ask you to compute how much 728*43 is, you will immediately go into LS (if you choose to take this mission..)

However, this applies to cases where you actually have to use your logic and apply rules. For example, asking you how much 3*4 is would usually have nothing to do with calculations but just with memory access – as I assume most of us remember the multiplication table.
In the same way, tasks that have already become a skillset will not require you to be in LS although they are governed by rules and require structured thinking. Why? Because once you’ve done something enough times you’re subconscious takes over and does most of the task automatically. A good example would be driving a car, typing on a keyboard (which turns into touch typing with time…) etc.

LS is not enjoyable. This is a major generalization (and I fully believe in it). Bear with me and I will try to explain.

Let’s look at a classic LS activity – academic studies (in fields like engineering, IT, etc). People do not like the way it feels when they start learning something new. It always feels like a new, unknown world. And so, people need some kind of motivation (internal or external) to go into LS. You might say that you’re happy you’re learning in University and love studying, but in fact, you are happy with the consequences of what the continuous logical state will bring you – deeper understanding, a diploma, better job prospects, doing what society expects you to. The actual state of studying is not only not enjoyable but very tiring.

With regards to PU – girls DO NOT want to be put in LS. LS is uninteresting. They want someone to trigger them emotionally. When a guy comes up to a girl with interview style (“what’s your name?”, “what do you do?” etc) it triggers absolutely no emotion. She just accesses her memory and answers him (if she’s nice…), but at the same time her brain is being logical thinking “what is this guy doing here? what does he want from me? when is he going away?” and trying to analyze it. Another example – you tell a girl you like her, and she asks “why do you like me?”. Most guys will start analyzing why, putting themselves and the girl in LS. She obviously just wants to hear the emotionally valid answer (which makes perfect sense to most girls and emotionally savvy guys – and is also the truth) – “I don’t know what it is really… I didn’t come with a manual to being human”.

One more point about logical state – it has very much to do with conscious (in contrast with subconscious). It requires effort to actually tell your brain what to do, because your subconscious likes to “take over” and do what it feels like.

A final example to sum it up – LS is not enjoyable at all. You start enjoying maths when you get a “feel” for an equation and intuitively “know” where to proceed. This isn’t logical state. This is developing an internal skillset with regards to maths. Your subconscious reigns, and then is when you enjoy it.

If anyone can think of a logical state that they enjoy without motivation (motivation actually being an emotional state), please let me know and I’ll reconsider these statements.

EMOTIONAL STATE (ES)

ES is the mirror picture of LS. It has a lot to do with your ego and how you define your personality (in the way the world sees it). It also has a lot to do with creativity, imagination and being “in the zone”.

Things that will put you in an ES immediately would be:
* Engaging your imagination: “Imagine a desert scene with a deep blue clouded sky. Camels are walking in the horizon while the wind blows in your hair”.

* Describing emotions: “That made me feel so worthless I almost felt like crying”.

* Anything to do with the senses – colors, smells, sensations described in general: “I went to a restaurant today, and guess what I had? Beautiful green salad with soy sauce, and [...]“. Describing meals is classic girl-speak by the way, as they access their ES much easier then men.

* Anything to do with your EGO – the ways you define yourself and keep constantly trying to prove to your environment and yourself. For example, a girl who has an ego point regarding smarts, that is she keeps trying to convince herself and everyone that she is clever, will be very insulted if you tell her she’s stupid. Really smart girls would be much less hurt, as they don’t believe you… But ironically, really stupid girls would also be less hurt – because they’ve accepted (to a certain level) that they’re stupid – it’s all about life experiences. This is pretty convoluted, but with some more thinking, trust me, it makes sense.

I will go back to the topic of Ego Points on a later article (if there is an interest) – but for this article, it’s enough to know that if you know someone’s ego points (something they keep trying to prove to themselves and/or the environment) you can put them in ES just by mentioning it – approving or disapproving of this opinion they have of themselves).

Now this is where ES gets tricky. Unlike LS, ES can be divided further into two:
- Positive Emotional State (ES+)
- Negative Emotional State (ES-)

ES+ would consist of good sensations running through your body which lead to good emotions. Making someone imagine something pleasurable is an example. ES- is the opposite, of course.

Why do I refer to these states as basically one and the same? Because, once someone is in an ES, they could easily be moved into the mirroring ES. Giving a girl a compliment and then saying “don’t let it get to your head”, followed by “but I still like you. You’re cool” is an example of ES juggling, also known in the community as Push and Pull.

ES is most definitely interesting, however, it cannot simply be said to be pleasurable. ES+ is definitely pleasurable, but ES- is a much more painful state to be in then LS (Logical state).

Emotional state is governed by your subconscious and has 2 main parts to it:
- Learned internalized skillsets and habits (things learned via trial and error and/or in logical state).
- Hardwired primitive urges.

Unlike Logical state, which seems a lot more simple to analyze (to me), it seems ES has a lot of intricacy to it. It has varying levels of intensity, and the harder the level of intensity is, the harder it is to do ES juggling.

It would be very hard to turn someone angry into a smiling, happy camper. However, taking them to logical state won’t help either. What should
be done is lowering the intensity of the ES, from very angry to, say, pissed off. From that point, you can (for example) use some humour to do ES juggling.

ES also feeds on social environment energies. When people around you are in ES+, it is hard to be in ES-. I believe that this is due to tribal behaviours, making it necessary for the tribe to share emotions in order to work better as a group.

There are some other points now, but they do not come to mind…

STATE SWITCH
If it seemed like you are necessarily in one state or another for hours on end, that is definitely not necasssarily true. State switches can be very quick – ES+ TO ES- for example. But also, low energy and interviewing style PU can bring someone out of ES and into LS. Life is constantly about these state switches, but the brain can only be in one state at one time – even if it is for a millisecond.
On the other hand, you can be in a state for hours, and I’m sure most of us can remember a recent occassion where they were emotional for HOURS.

I will soon proceed to describe the third, powerful state required for PU – EQUI-STATE (QS). But before, a short discussion about states and value.

STATES AND VALUE
Value is actually a very tangible quality that our brains feel and analyzes all the time. You know when a true alpha is around, and if you don’t – your brain does. It constantly keeps track of your value and the value of people around you and does comparisons.

Now, there are many ways to convey higher value, but it seems you can describe all of them with the following abstract rule:
In a relationship between two people, the person of higher value (x) the one who can consistently (throughout their interactions) put the other person (y) in a higher intensity Emotional State than x’s Emotional State is at the time of interaction.

This sounds very mathematical, so I’ll explain by examples again:
* Someone who can get you really angry while remaining relatively unaffected is higher value.
* Someone who can make you laugh incessantly without laughing themselves is higher value.
* Someone who can make you cry without being emotional themselves is higher value.

And – and this is what we do with PU:
* Someone who can make you feel strong emotional feelings without (seemingly) feeling the same, is HIGHER VALUE.

EQUI STATE (QS)
OK, this is a tricky one. Because, unlike the other ones, this is a state where you have to consciously work against your bodily sensations. My definition for equi-state is “a state in which you’re aware of your own emotions and sensations, but decide on your course of action logically”. In that, it is a bridge between ES and LS. I think it is caused by a flow of adrenaline into the body, but without being angry or afraid. That is (usually), “fight or flight” instinct is triggered, but not acted upon.

I believe most of us in the lair have witnessed and felt it.

Examples:
* Feeling “fear of approach” but approaching.
* You feel “fight or flight” in an argument but choose not to do either – you don’t apologize and you don’t lash back. You remain unaffected.
* Doing a bungee jump.

And maybe these too: (to a lesser degree if any, not sure)
* Feeling disgust from a certain activity but doing it still.
* Withholding yourself from doing something you really want but you know you should (dieting, quitting smoking, etc).

QS bears with it tremendous feelings of confidence and self control, and also a feeling of “I know what to do”. The more you do it, the more comfortable it feels to go past fears and break bad old habits.

And now, how to get into QS? The answer is not an easy one. You have to do what you know you should, but don’t feel like doing. You have to be true to yourself, and at the same time remain emotionally unaffected.
This is, by the way, my latest definition of Alpha – true to yourself, and emotionally unaffected.

I hope you see why QS projects so much value. If you look back to the topic of states and value, you will see that by staying in QS, you will do two things:

* Create ES in other people (this requires techniques, but being in QS makes it easy and would also make you feel congruent).
* Remain emotionally unaffected yourself.

One more thing that needs to be mentioned about QS – it is VERY fragile. That is, it’s very easy to fall from it into ES (either ES+ or ES-). However, just like ES it has intensity levels. That is why warm up sets work – you go past your fear of approach once, twice, three times – and you amplify your state.

GIRLS CLASSIFIED BY STATE

So again, as I said, girls tend to be in ES much more of the time. But how much? The amount of time a girl spends in ES is pretty clear after some calibration (if you understand some of the ideas in this article, you should be able to tell someone’s state in no time soon…). However, the amount of time she spend in ES also determines a lot.

Super emotional girl – FLAKES – can be detected by using a lot of emotional words (the 5 senses, talking about her ego, etc). These girls are GOVERNED by their emotions, and are almost always in ES. This makes it easy, because they will not resist being put in emotional state in the first place. However, as I said, ES+ is what makes people happy basically, and that’s where you want to put them in their interactions with you. However, you should consider the fact that these girls have experience a lot more ES+. And so, their emotional needs you need to meet are A LOT higher. You need to master emotional juggling to be able to handle flakes well.

Logical girls – These are a rare breed, but they are still there to be found. These girls would usually work in jobs that require a lot of LS, such as accountants, programmers, engineers, etc. It is VERY easy to be interesting to these girls, as they access ES a lot less than most girls. However, when they get to an intensified ES, they are OUT OF CONTROL. They have a lot less experience with ES, and it just takes over them.

Regular girls – I would say these are most girls, and they spend most of their time (60-80%) in ES. Their emotional bar (how hard it is to get them into ES) varies, but with some calibration can be found and bypassed. And after that, it’s all up to you…

CLOSING NOTES
OK, this is pretty much what I had in mind at the moment… I just felt in the zone and wrote all this train of thought – I might go back and fix some things. This is the first time I put these ideas into written form, and your comments would be VERY helpful.

One thing I definitely need advice on is being “in the zone” (or “flow” as it is referred to in the book “Emotional intelligence”) – doing something almost subconsciously but with a lot of precision and energy. The example the book gives is a neuro-surgeon doing brain surgery for 8 straight hours, and finding out when the operation is finished that part of the ceiling collapsed in the room 5 hours before… The same would be true for sports people during gametime, dancers in a recital etc. This might be QS, but it doesn’t coincide with my definitions for it. Is it a fourth state? Intensified Logical state? Your ideas are welcome.

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